Harry calls colleagues 'paki' and 'rag head'

[giamodel60]

OK wait please refrain from making blanket negative sounding remarks about all of American media outlets because of one incident through a known tabloid columnist (Perez Hilton).

As an American, and one who considers herself very liberal, I can take offense to the statement "liberal ideologies" as if that was a bad thing.

ANYWAY ON TOPIC:
Harry is not a racist, has never been a racist, and that is a fact!

He does however not always think with his brain before doing impulsive things that end up getting him into trouble. Cases in point: Nazi uniform (To me at least over and done with. Thank goodness!) and now his own video where he uses questionable language to describe his friends.

Now I get that it was in fun, but so was the Nazi thing, and I'm sure so was the funnel drinking tube as well. The thing he doesn't seem to understand is that wether it is fair or not, wether he likes it or not, the media (wrongly imo) WILL and DO bring it up and blow it out of proportion.

AS third in line to the throne, he should have the same decorum and sense that people expect from William imo. If William were the one who got caught doing these things, people would be all over him even more than sometimes they already are. The fact is Harry (and William) need to start thinking like adults and thinking about the repercussions of their actions in regards to their position in life.

no need, it wasn't meant to be offensive at all, it is simply how i see it! we can have different opinions. - you are right he isn't all the media outlets but I do find that the American media in general slants to a liberal point of view, not a neutral one.

[varya]

^ Your right. It's true the American Media is biased, liberal or conservative, far more than other countries media.

I have a guy from Afghanistan in my class ( we're an international one so we have students from all around the world) We call him all crazy stuff that would make us seem like totally racists, but the thing is, he started saying them himself. He calls himself "The beast from the east", some "taliban comments" have been made as well, that his relatives lives in caves...so on..
he's our friend and I think the same goes for Harry and his army pals.

Sorry for the double post but I felt I really had to comment here.

Have you ever thought that maybe the reason he started referring to himself in the more racist terms is because instead of making a fuss over comments people made he just went along with it and pretended that he was ok with it? Just because he is your friend does not mean that he is entirely ok with those types of remarks.

And like it was pointed out by dontknowdontcare, the captain was not even in earshot when Harry said what he did. So we don't really know if he was ok with it or not. And the soldier who he called raghead was not middle-eastern, he looked to be white and most likely british. Now I wonder what would have been the response if the persons believes or culture had included wearing the head covering. Would they have thought the remark of "raghead" was funny?

Also I would like to bring up another article a while ago. It was the article about the term "ginger" when describing redheads, it was said that Harry really did not like being referred to as a "ginger", he thought it was offensive. SO if he thought that being called Ginger was offensive, why did he think that his remark of "paki" and "raghead" would be ok?

Was it because he is PRINCE Harry, white and male? And white men were in the majority of that troupe so chances are that even if Ahmed was insulted he wouldn't want to start anything so therefore he didn't say anything (if he heard it at all)?

Also is Captain higher or lower in ranks to what Harry is?

[drwonderwoman]

I think Captain is higher. Don't quote me on that though.

[Countessa]

I have a guy from Afghanistan in my class ( we're an international one so we have students from all around the world) We call him all crazy stuff that would make us seem like totally racists, but the thing is, he started saying them himself. He calls himself "The beast from the east", some "taliban comments" have been made as well, that his relatives lives in caves...so on..
he's our friend and I think the same goes for Harry and his army pals.

Perhaps this person from Afghanistan is just trying to fit in. I can't imagine he would call himself names because he wants to be viewed that way. Furthermore, perhaps it would be a good idea if he was not called "racist" names in return. Maybe then he would feel welcome without having to demean himself.

I really don't think that Harry should be given a pass on this. He has too many instances in the past where he speaks before he thinks. We don't know that the soldier he referred to would want to be referred to like that. Why couldn't Harry just call the man by his name? That's the decent thing to do.

[giamodel60]

would he bother to set up a foundation and work with poor black children if he was racist?

[varya]

The point is not if he is racist... but wether him saying racist things, even in jest, is ok.

[giamodel60]

i think if it was Will i would be roasting him over it, but that is because he is the heir to the throne, but also in my own mind i believe harry to be truely gifted and not perfect, and he doesn't hide that. Yes for some people that is a racist comment for others it is not. 

[heather]

This footage is three years old and CH and Prince Harry have issued a apology.

  Amen... people call me Scotti all the time.... I call them Yankies or Canucks....


  In the army men call one another Mucker... or Taffy.. or Mick.....or Jock...or Scouse....in the war years it was Tommies and Gerries..

[bpwriter47]

this is a no win situation for everyone because this is one of those subjects that people have their own strong opinions on. 

btw, people on here have likened at one time Kate to a hillbilly.  I'm a hillbilly and putting Kate in that category offends me. 

he made a mistake, he apologized. and it just makes me wonder why it took so long to show up in public and what else is out there that we haven't seen on any royal family member.

[heather]

   "Wither it's or isn't racialy offensive is not down to the intended meaning by the person who makes the remark. It's down to perception by the person or persons the remark is aimed at. In this case the person concerned made no comment at the time as per the video. Neither I imagine did he make a claim of racism against the Prince or undoubtedly it would have hit the headlines long before now. The only one complaining seems to be his uncle who was obviously not there. Personally I question the motives of the uncle in commenting to the media 3 years later".


    from a wise friend of mine at another forum.

[heather]

"If you are in the services and you come from Scotland you are called Jock, if you are from Newcastle you are Geordie, from Liverpool you are Scouse, Wales you are taffy so if you are from Pakistan you are called Paki, not in a racist meaning but in a shortened version of Pakistani. It's not the word Paki that is offensive its the word that somethime follows it ( you will know what I am getting at). I don't understand how the shortening of a name can be offensive, everyone where I live now is called a Stokie, now is that racial".

  from my good friend Kevin, who is in the British Army.

[varya]

i think if it was Will i would be roasting him over it, but that is because he is the heir to the throne, but also in my own mind i believe harry to be truely gifted and not perfect, and he doesn't hide that. Yes for some people that is a racist comment for others it is not. 

Well that is very biased of you to hold one of them to higher standards than the other, but that is IMHO.
So you think Wills is not "truly gifted"?

[benign]

Richard Kay and Geoffrey Levy of DM:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1112321/Isnt-time-silly-boy-Harry-growing-up.html

- article 

[drwonderwoman]

This is ridiculous.   This video is 3 yrs old. It is not something he did recently as in yesterday or last month but 3 yrs ago.

The DM can stick it where the sun dos'nt shine as far as I am concerned.

[giamodel60]

Well that is very biased of you to hold one of them to higher standards than the other, but that is IMHO.
So you think Wills is not "truly gifted"?

i dont' think wills has come near to testing his metal, the SAR bit is wonderful and i think it will set him up well for the future and give him something to be as proud of as Harry.  Having said that I see Diana in Harry, the way he speaks, the way he gets his message across, the causes he chooses to support, and i loved Diana for all of those things, so yes I am biased to Harry, what he has accomplished at a young age and what he didn't have to do given that a lot of people wrote him off as the dumb one, is incredible, he will be rememberer in history, and like Diana with faults. 
William can get there but he has a lot of self work to do, and he needs to stop focusing on the things that 'get his mind' off of work and just get down to the work itself.