Ok so firstly I comment on many royal forums so for sure I am sure I have debated with you guys on one forum or another at some point in time? NBD.
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For the time being I thought it was a good thing to point out that Kate Middleton is still just dating prince William which makes her still a private citizen….. Although I am sure she is expected to behave in a certain way the fact still remains that she and her family are private citizens until or IF the ring slips onto her finger then she is fair game.
OK she's a private citizen, sure... so i guess that would mean that the cut price audi deal and her free clothes should therefore be paid for right? And that she should not get deals (such as free vacations) as if she was a WORKING celebrity or a royal already? Correct?
You know I couldn’t personally give a monkeys whether Kate works another day in her life or not. She is answerable at this stage to her parents and William. Again as long as she is not claiming income support what she does with her life is her business.
This part is contradictory, if she is answerable to her parents and William than her life is not only her business. It's also theirs.
Plus why is she answerable to William? He's certainly not answerable to her... unless it's about their relationship. And since it appears her parents still pay for the majority (if not all) of her expenses, and she lives either with them or in a flat that they pay for, doesn't that mean that at least in part she is answerable to them?
I know that since I am living with my grandparents, and I know some of my friends who are still living with their parents, the philosophy is the same. Which is if you live here than you abide the rules of the house (aka: the grandparents or parents who in parts support me and them respectively), and if we didn't like it than we would be asked to live on our own. Where we would be free as adults and our own breadwinners to make our own decisions. But I guess it is all a matter of how one was raised.
If she has aspirations or not again her business.
You would be right IF she were not in line to be the next princess. Because at this point she is, than her aspirations are really everyones business, wether she likes it or not. And if she didn't like it than she has always been, and still is free to walk away. Chelsy did, and she's no worse off than she was before (some would argue that she is even better off now than she was).
She is not my daughter sister or mother so she doesn’t have to answer to me. The other thing that I have to comment on is that many on here say she should have accomplished more at 27? Why??
I respect your view here, but unfortunately as my previous bit said she is in the public eye so it is not just herself anymore. And if she does have this view that it is only her business, than she needs to get out now and live her life how she sees fit. As a person with this viewpoint has no place within the Royal family. The RF's very purpose at this point in history is to serve the public. And yes I know that they screw up and do not always follow this, but that is what they HAVE to strive for. Otherwise there would be no monarchy to speak of.
I know that most of you must have read that Kate gets a lot of offers for work but everything has to be vetted by Clarence House and they have turned down a number of things for her.
I'm sorry to be blunt here... but no, she does not!
If she and her family do use this line, than it is the lamest excuse ever. As there is no ring on her finger, and despite the "longevity" of their relationship she is not guaranteed a ring. So therefore she is not obliged, nor do I think there has been any real tampering in her life by CH (maybe suggestions but that's it, which she probably seeks out and takes as gospel truth of her own accord). The only people CH cares about are Royals, always been this way always will be this way.
The roller disco pictures were unfortunate she fell but I still don’t see how that was a big deal either. She had a friend who died of cancer and was trying to raise money. Could she of thought of a better way to do it sure…. But people turned up and are now aware of a charity they would probably not have even known had existed without Kate.
Well your right about the publicity regarding Kate making more people aware of it. But in the grand scheme of things it was the organizers who actually invited the people to the event, the people who would and could donate to this charity. I honestly think that she was asked to show up and maybe at the last minute decided to hold a tray. Other than that I really don't think she planned anything. Plus she did a piss poor job of doing her "helping", she fell flat on her arse and I don't think she was wearing underwear... ew!
Also she left completely hammered, she had to have two people carry her out to her car. Not exactly potential princess like behavior!To be honest and you guys could be the exception, I have never in my life met anyone who didn’t aspire to or want better than they had in life. Or want better for their children or want their children to do well. I’ve never heard before that St. Andrews wasn’t Kate’s first choice of university. I’ve heard that she was heavily encouraged by her mother but again what is wrong with that? What are the chances that she would really have become friends with William. There were so many girls and he still picked her.
Well there is nothing wrong with wanting better for yourself, but it becomes a problem when you single out certain people and push others out of the way just because you want to marry the "titled" men. Also if she at St. Andrews didn't leave his side or played games with him/manipulated him into staying with her and made it her whole focus than it would be pretty hard for other girls to get close enough to make a lasting impression.
I think most people have a past. I drink I have fun with my friends I’ve definitely been intoxicated before & it’s funny that a lot of people on here think that is the end of the world. He wasn’t drink driving merely coming out of a restaurant intoxicated (behavior I’m sure I’ve seen from Harry and William)??
We have all made comments on her regarding both William and Harry's drinking, and Chelsy's. But the difference is with these three and KM is that they all do something other than drinking and vacationing. William and Harry are in the army and do royal duties, and Chelsy is still in school going for her masters. Kate on the other hand is seen doing nothing other than party, show up at the occasional wedding, vacation, and party some more. That is where we have such a big issue with her drinking. And I can only speak for myself but I don't think it is the "end of the world", but it does show a lack of maturity at 27 (almost 30!) years old to still act like you are in college! That goes for William as well.
I’ve read the article. And many on here complain that it was pap infested restaurant and they are looking for celebrity. I think one thing that the birthday (Kate’s at her home where William car was photographed) and cell phone picture of Kate proved was that the paps follow them EVERYWHERE. So no matter where they went they would be photographed.
If she really was photographed everywhere she goes than there would be MUCH more pictures of her available. But it is interesting (and predictable) that the first time she and her family are seen is where Paparazzi are known to hang out. They could have gone a number of other places and had a night out. Or James could have gone out there with his friends and got hammered, but no. The whole Midds clan had to show up! And that reeks of publicity stunt, possibly for sympathy... maybe even so William will get back to poor harassed Katie and fam. (just a theory)
It’s funny that you say there will be consequences M-Filly for them just going out to dinner I think that shows you just how ridiculous the paparazzi. If they can’t live a normal life then what is the point. Her family shouldn’t be punished for her dating preferences.
Oh I don't think that they are punished at all. I think they love it, and the only reason they got upset is because their pr stunt didn't go as planned, in other words James got too drunk and started misbehaving. Therefore they got embarrassed and wanted no pictures to be taken.
James Middleton is I think 22 years old which makes him an adult. If he gets drunk he gets drunk. He is responsible for that, my parents certainly don’t sit at dinner outings at restaurant telling me how many drinks I can have and not have. He’s past the age when they can legally tell him what to do.
Well I guess again it's down to parenting. Because no matter what age I was I would, 1) never get that drunk with my family around (a matter of respect for one thing) and 2) for health reasons, if nothing else, her parents should have said something. But they didn't, doesn't say much about them now does it?
Sorry for the long post, I am not trying to attack your opinions, thank you for sharing them with us, I just wanted to explain my own opinions also.
